Alex S ([info]barrysarll) wrote,
@ 2009-06-21 23:08:00
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Current mood: happy
Current music:Small Change - Lodger

Smiling
Spent today in Valentines Park, which I barely even knew existed before this week, but which is big and beautiful and contains a rather odd mansion full of art and fancy dress and the odd Victorian fixture, as well as being home to baby frogs (one of which some small children inadvertently squashed after we pointed them out; that's the problem with trying to share the joy of nature). Then ate pizza and watched The Little Norse Prince, an early Ghibli animation by the guy who isn't Miyazaki, and who hadn't found his style yet when he made this, and which frankly made no sense whatsoever though we think it *might* be a figurative biography of [info]retrosoup. And walking home afterwards in the solstice gloaming, I was already thinking about how the sky gets so unbearably beautiful at this time of year that it's almost tragic, when the fireworks started. Maybe reading Donleavy's Darcy Dancer on the Tube helped, but I realised on my journey's final stage that I was ablaze with that pure and synchronised misty, mysterious clarity that I got the first few times I drank, all without having touched a drop today (though who knows what effect that orange squash might have had? I don't normally touch the stuff these days). Whereas what I get from booze these days is more...comfort, maybe conviviality?* Not sensations to be scorned by any means, but it helps to remember these specifics when one is in the business of emotional engineering, and aren't we all?

*It varies further drink by drink, of course. Consider Saturday when, between a picnic on the pink wine (and horror stories) and a Prom on pints (and mainlined eighties), I had a couple of bottles of a cider called Green Goblin, and found myself suddenly wanting to go to bridges with blondes and/or subvert the intelligence institutions of the USA.




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[info]retrosoup
2009-06-21 10:39 pm UTC (link)
i feel like i must watch this now!

also baby frogs, before they are frogs, are called tadpoles in english, no? wikipedia just confirmed this, but i am quite drunk, but yes. in norwegian they are called RUMPETROLL. that does indeed mean BUMTROLL. i feel this is 100% super relevant information.

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[info]barrysarll
2009-06-21 10:45 pm UTC (link)
It is seriously mental, this little Norse guy is fighting some wolves and then the ground wakes up and turns out to be a stone giant and he pulls a sword out of it and then he goes home with his best friend (who is of course a talking bear) and...and then it gets weird. Oh, and we never get any indication that he is in fact a prince, but whatevs. And it does appear to be set in Northern Norway, which is ruled by the Devil except his name is in fact Mr Grunwald.

Tadpoles are the little wiggly things. Which then gradually grow legs, and lose their tails, and become 'baby frogs' ie they now look frog-shaped but are incredibly tiny.

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[info]retrosoup
2009-06-21 10:49 pm UTC (link)
oh god, that is actually THE STORY OF MY LIFE. i must watch this immediately. also i do actually come from nobility, my ancestors had titles and survived the black plague as one of the few srs bsns posho families to do so, except this is northern norway so everyone was piss poor anyway so it didn't matter.

grunwald is soooo not a nordic name, though, i feel like i should be offended!

yes, that's what i figured. the little wiggly things are the bumtrolls. because bum also means tail here, apparently, because that's where tails are. norwegian makes so much sense. and we invented trolls so uh, that explains that?

also trolls turn to stone when they are out in the sun as per norwegian folklore or fairytales or whatever, which would be why we have so many mountains here. so that makes a lot of sense, that part of that film. maybe.

Edited at 2009-06-21 10:52 pm UTC

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[info]barrysarll
2009-06-21 11:01 pm UTC (link)
The names were all bonkers, they didn't sound Japanese or Nordic or even like a hybrid of the two. There was one kid called Flep, and a Potom, and the rest weren't much better.

And giants turning to hills, that I know all about, as per Neil Gaiman's stamp story:

"If it were not for the giants, Britain would look very different. In
the dawn days they feefifofummed across the land, picking up rocks and
throwing them at other giants in friendly rivalry, or alone they would
break mountains, crush rocks into causeways, leave henges and stone
seats to mark their passing.

The giants were big but not bright. They were outsmarted by clever
boys named Jack and fell from beanstalks or were tricked to death.
They died, but not all of them are dead.

The remaining giants sleep, lost in deep, slow dreams, covered in
earth and trees and wild grass. Some have clouds on their shoulders or
long men carved on their sides. We see them from the windows of cars
and tell each other that from some angles they look almost like
people.

Even giants can only sleep for so long. Do not make too much noise the
next time you walk in the hills."


There was a book I loved as a kid, where this boy goes wandering through the woods and hills and there are giants and witches hidden in the art. But nobody else remembers it, and I don't know the name.

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[info]retrosoup
2009-06-21 11:05 pm UTC (link)
being that i am not a goth, i know nothing about neil gaiman, but yes, that sounds about right. obviously i don't know what kind of stories neil gaiman grew up being told as a tiny child, and the same goes for you. but when i was tiny i was told about a billion fairytales about boys who went off to fight trolls, and the trolls were all "i smell the blood of a christian!" so then the boy got all scared but he PREVAILED because he was BRAVE and he saved the princess and the troll turned into stone. this happened a lot.

i also liked the story about the boy (the youngest of three brothers, and the rubbish one - this is also a recurring theme in these stories) who had an EATING CONTEST with a troll, and he cheated by cutting a hole in a bag that he had on his belly and basically it ended with him winning and saving the kingdom and the princess or something. and i don't remember if that troll turned into stone, but that was always kind of a given.

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[info]barrysarll
2009-06-21 11:08 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, even in The Hobbit they did the whole stone thing, and I remember seeing that on stage when I was a mere slip of a lad. Of course, by Lord of the Rings they're fine with the sun - possibly the armies of Mordor just make sure to slap some sunblock on them.

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[info]retrosoup
2009-06-21 11:10 pm UTC (link)
i tried reading the hobbit when i was about 15. it bored me. which, given that i was in a mental hospital at the time, is saying a great deal. those places are dreadfully boring.

well, actually it might have had more to do with the fact that the boy in the room opposite mine kept playing metallica really loudly. so then i had to play morrissey EVEN LOUDER. being a nerd was just too much effort, man.

speaking of gaiman, though, i bought my stepdad some comic book or other by him a couple of christmases ago, and my little brother (12 or so at the time) had a lol attack for obvious reasons. i was torn between going all boring pc c#nt on him and just laughing along with him because yeah, that is funny. guess which one i went with? YEAH JUST GUESS.

Edited at 2009-06-21 11:14 pm UTC

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[info]barrysarll
2009-06-21 11:20 pm UTC (link)
He says he loves doing the GLAAD awards because, whether or not he wins, the mere announcement of his name gets a massive cheer.

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[info]pippaalice
2009-06-22 09:28 am UTC (link)
<3

You are adorable.

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[info]augstone
2009-06-21 10:57 pm UTC (link)
'darcy dancer' sounds perfect for that type of day.

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[info]barrysarll
2009-06-21 11:02 pm UTC (link)
My trip back from Essex to Finsbury Park was less eventful than his from Dublin to Andromeda Park, but they did go well together.

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[info]pippaalice
2009-06-22 09:30 am UTC (link)
This is a wonderful entry. I am glad you are happy.

Also even I didn't realise Valentine's park was so beautiful.

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[info]barrysarll
2009-06-22 09:59 am UTC (link)
Bounce!

Looking at map there were more hidden gardens across the 'long water'. Also a horse pond. I did not know horses lived in ponds, but there you go.

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[info]pippaalice
2009-06-22 10:09 am UTC (link)
Wow! Airhead would be interested in the horse pond!

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[info]barrysarll
2009-06-22 10:11 am UTC (link)
Does she like horse-fishing?

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[info]pippaalice
2009-06-22 12:47 pm UTC (link)
Oh god I am stupid! ;)

I don't think so. She would only catch slightly dumpy non jumpy horses which were bad at dressage. Though I think dressage is only walking horses so I don't know why she seems to choose ones that are bad at it.

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[info]barrysarll
2009-06-22 03:16 pm UTC (link)
Maybe they get to share her gin?

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