Alex S ([info]barrysarll) wrote,
@ 2005-07-08 11:25:00
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Current mood: serenely defiant
Current music:London - Philip Jeays

England abides
I remember the evening of September 11th 2001; we were already booked to go pubbing ([info]vivid_blue's birthday) and heavens know we were glad of the drinks, because it felt like the beginning of the end. Last night just felt like a relief. We've known for ages that something was going to happen; now it has, and it was conventional, and fairly lame. They did their worst, and they managed to disrupt our transport network and get fatalities in the low double figures. That happens on a fairly regular basis anyway, you twits. What's your next trick - a fiendish weather control device which makes it rain on a bank holiday weekend?

I knew that if I went out on Friday I'd only end up putting my fist through something with an Olympic logo, so it was a night in with the plastic merlot, reading of Flashman and Slaine and their defences of Britain; this felt entirely appropriate at the time, but is even more so in hindsight.

Running a bit late on Thursday morning, I come to the station to hear that not only is it closed, but so's the whole network. My immediate thought: Why couldn't this have happened 24 hours ago, *before* the IOC vote?* At this stage, there's still talk of power surges (well, I suppose a bomb blast is technically a power surge), so I decide to drop off some library books and head for the buses. En route, ringing the parents to confirm that I am intact, I bump into [info]missfrancesca and direct her to the bus she wants, an act I will later fear has consigned her to her doom. Waiting for the buses, I bump into [info]oneofthose and events take a rather carnival turn. "How long until it's acceptable to start looting?" "Well, I think it's like a buffet - you don't want to be the first, but you want to be in the first wave." He gets a report of 30 fatalities, but it's from a messageboard which is apparently always full of sh1t; five hours later, the first decent official figures say 33. Then we hear that buses have started blowing up, and there's blood on Sky News, and suddenly it;s no fun anymore. I walk home across Finsbury Park, because if there's one thing that's not worth blowing up, it's Zone 3 parks. It's around this point that I went off the grid, causing some alarm; in retrospect, the reason I couldn't 'phone [info]pippaalice is that I might have been trying to detonate her.
I watch TV, glad that there was nothing decent on this week anyway. The situation's never too dire for me to find fluffs like "at least 35 people have been died" amusing, or to wonder how anyone can say they're "shocked" by something this inevitable. An American voluntary worker whose parents were in the Twin Towers was near the site of one blast; I want to know this man's name and whereabouts so that I can be sure our paths never cross. London Underground's Tim O'Toole *is* Vic's American Eagle from Catterick. Someone describes the bus as "one of London's most enduring landmarks" and I think, that was no Routemaster. The footage begins to repeat itself and I leave it on, but need something else to do; I decide that it is fitting to iron, and to drink quite stupendous amounts of tea. Later, it is equally fitting to go to the pub, and generally to act in whatever manner would seem most likely to be abhorrent to fundamentalist scum. This is our city, you d1ckheads - you barely even scratch it, and we're meant to be terrified?


What follows was written on Wednesday afternoon, but I think it's even more appropriate now:
But I've written quite enough of late about how I'll never be anything I hate. So now I'll smile, mention some things that I like, how I'd have a happy life if I did the things I like. There's plenty on my interests list, of course, but among the other things that are ACE are deciduous trees, chartreuse, snapdragons, the Albion, Albion, finches, Saint Etienne, eyes, 'It Doesn't Mean That I Don't Love You If I Forget To Call You Back', Crouch End, Drew Barrymore, Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell, kissing, F Scott Fitzgerald, 'You Spin Me Round (Like A Record)', girls in male formal clothes, Le Grand Meaulnes, Christ Church Spitalfields, Johnny Depp, 'Virginia Plain', getting your hair just right, The Ark, mid-size dogs, tea, boys with fringes, shield bugs, Angelina Jolie, Dodgeball and outlandish rock formations.

*I know it's talk like this which saw [info]jamesward blaming me for the attacks. Admittedly one speaker yesterday described them as "acts of almost unspeakable depravity", the Projected Novel's first paragraph does include the line "even before the bombs you couldn't trust the Circle line", and I was in a foul mood. But seriously, if I had the capability to do this I would have done it as prevention of rather than revenge on the IOC vote. And I certainly wouldn't have attacked stations I use as frequently as Russell Square and King's Cross. Personally, when I saw the blast victims covered in soot and grime, I was reminded of [info]darkmarpi's claim that one cannot travel through central London without needing a shower, and wondered who else on LJ might have a point to prove...




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[info]firefish
2005-07-08 10:38 am UTC (link)
This is our city, you d1ckheads - you barely even scratch it, and we're meant to be terrified?

I agree, although yesterday, you did say you were scared.

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[info]barrysarll
2005-07-08 10:45 am UTC (link)
I did? Where?
I suppose I was at first, because who knew what kind of attack it was, how many more blasts there'd be, or what kind of weapons? But once it became apparent that it was just a few conventional explosives, and that everyone I knew seemed to be OK, it gradually dawned on me what a thoroughly lame effort it had been.

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[info]minnesattva
2005-07-08 10:50 am UTC (link)
There's a difference, though, between being scared and being terrified--between being legitimately concerned for your short-term welfare and that of your loved ones and your city as a whole, and doing what the terrorists want, which is restricting freedoms in the name of "security," keeping everyone vaguely afraid all the time ... bascially, the United States' reaction to the World Trade Center attacks. And I don't think that's going to happen in London or in Britain; people there know better. They have a much better perspective on this sort of thing, perhaps thanks to the IRA stuff. They konw that if they cower, the terrorists are winning, and I think at least for now they're doing an admirable job of defying the terrorists' expectations.

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[info]darkmarcpi
2005-07-08 10:38 am UTC (link)
Well, the bombs were nowt to do with me. Honest guv. Like you, if I had a point to prove (eat your words, [info]jamesward!), re dirt on the underground I wouldn't have blown up a tube I use every day, such as Edgware Road.

(Mind you, I'm sure there are some who will invent evidence that the whole thing was part of some global Zionist conspiracy (in which case...) and that Mossad and the CIA planted the bombs...)

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[info]barrysarll
2005-07-08 10:41 am UTC (link)
Did you see that conspiracy moron to whom [info]jamesward linked? The one who couldn't believe this was AQ (not that they exist anyway) because they'd have wanted more deaths?
Well, maybe they *tried* and *failed* to cause more damage, you dimwit! Who says every bomber is competent?

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(no subject) - [info]darkmarcpi, 2005-07-08 10:46 am UTC
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[info]puzzled_anwen
2005-07-08 11:57 am UTC (link)
Oh, apparently the Israeli ambassador or someone was meant to be going to a meeting in somewhere or other and was WARNED not to go just before the blasts. Pff.

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[info]darkmarcpi
2005-07-08 10:41 am UTC (link)
Last night just felt like a relief

I don't share this view. Sure it's finally happened, it's now over, and I and those I know escaped unharmed. But I fear it will be the first of several incidents, not an isolated case. As with the World Trade Centre, they'll try again. And it will be bigger and deadlier next time.

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[info]barrysarll
2005-07-08 10:46 am UTC (link)
Since the twin towers fell, have they done repeat attacks on anywhere? Not that I'm aware. And that statement yesterday didn't say 'This is only the beginning of our campaign against the English infidels' or similar - it made out that they'd really done us some damage, and warned Italy and Denmark that they were next.

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(no subject) - [info]darkmarcpi, 2005-07-08 10:54 am UTC
Maybe next time it will be Birmingham or Manchester or something. - [info]barrysarll, 2005-07-08 10:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puzzled_anwen, 2005-07-08 11:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]barrysarll, 2005-07-08 12:01 pm UTC

[info]my_name_is_anna
2005-07-08 10:43 am UTC (link)
I thought that about Tim O'Toole too!

And re yesterday - it was on a much smaller scale than 11th Sept, and that's a relief, but it wasn't small enough as there are lots of people who were alive and ok on wednesday who are dead or injured today, and even if only one person was hurt, that would be too much, wouldn't it?

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[info]barrysarll
2005-07-08 10:59 am UTC (link)
Something was bound to happen sooner or later. And when it did...Big Ben didn't fall, the tunnels weren't awash with sarin, Oxford Street isn't dusted with plutonium. Realistically, this was the best outcome for which we could hope.

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(no subject) - [info]my_name_is_anna, 2005-07-08 01:02 pm UTC

[info]jamesward
2005-07-08 10:44 am UTC (link)
I can't be bothered to read all this toss, Bazza. Did you do it or didn't you?

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[info]barrysarll
2005-07-08 10:48 am UTC (link)
That bit's all in the footnote, [info]jamesward. But in summary - no, and if I had, I'd probably have opted for Waterloo & City over Piccadilly, because I have never used the former so a) it wouldn't inconvenience me and b) planting the device would have given me a chance to take it.

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[info]innerbrat
2005-07-08 10:47 am UTC (link)
La.

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[info]barrysarll
2005-07-08 11:00 am UTC (link)
Thank you. And I thoroughly approve of the icon.

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(no subject) - [info]innerbrat, 2005-07-08 11:04 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]barrysarll, 2005-07-08 12:07 pm UTC
So how do I get a copy of this icon, please? - (Anonymous), 2005-07-11 08:09 pm UTC
Re: So how do I get a copy of this icon, please? - [info]innerbrat, 2005-07-11 08:16 pm UTC
Re: So how do I get a copy of this icon, please? - (Anonymous), 2005-07-11 08:26 pm UTC

[info]superba
2005-07-08 10:48 am UTC (link)
shield bugs! :D

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[info]barrysarll
2005-07-08 11:00 am UTC (link)
I can't believe some people find them creepy!

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[info]666inmyheart
2005-07-08 11:04 am UTC (link)
London Underground's Tim O'Toole *is* Vic's American Eagle from Catterick.

Ha! I thought this too! Jodie needs to be informed! He'll be getting all us Londoners to protect ourselves on the tube via the deft use of our Toooperware.

xx

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[info]duranorak
2005-07-08 11:13 am UTC (link)
Yes, I realise you haven't really got a clue who I am, but the last paragraph of your post made me smile so very, very much I thought it probably couldn't hurt to post saying "Well, yeah." So I have.

B-Movie, by the way?

E.
x

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[info]barrysarll
2005-07-08 11:28 am UTC (link)
I am vaguely aware of you by repute, and do read your journal when I get a spare moment from the flist sprawl, but in terms of actual faces or owt then you're right, not a clue. Having just checked that it is still on, I shall indeed be at B Movie; introduce yourself!

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[info]hoshuteki
2005-07-08 11:18 am UTC (link)
Oh hark, the casualties have gone into the mid-double figures. I don't think that affects your comments too much, though. Spot on.

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[info]j4
2005-07-08 11:21 am UTC (link)
snapdragons

Hurrah for snapdragons and the finger-pinchy snap-snap thing you can do with them. I still get such a kick out of showing this to people who've never seen it before. SNAP! SNAP!

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[info]j4
2005-07-08 11:22 am UTC (link)
Of course it now belatedly occurs to me that you were probably talking about a mega cool indie band, or drugs, or something, and not the flowers.

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[info]perfectlyvague
2005-07-08 12:48 pm UTC (link)
I said it a couple of years ago, probably, but I do need to lend you 'The Way I Found Her' by Rose Tremain for the Meaulnes references.

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[info]barrysarll
2005-07-08 12:53 pm UTC (link)
I'd never heard of it until just before I read it, but it's been very influential; John Fowles' The Magus (and hence Neurocam, presumably) is heavily influenced by it.

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(no subject) - [info]perfectlyvague, 2005-07-08 12:59 pm UTC

[info]oxfordgirl
2005-07-11 01:53 pm UTC (link)
Here from the BBC website like all the others (though admittely I got there via [info]london_hurts in the first place). Just wanted to say Hurrah! for your comments, both quoted and otherwise. The "fiendish weather control device" is right up there on my quote list with [info]gypseymission's "London doesn't hurt, anal sex hurts when attempted without lubricant"...


girls in male formal clothes are really hot

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Here from the BBC website like all the others
[info]barrysarll
2005-07-11 01:57 pm UTC (link)
Actually, you're the first such to say hello, so congratulations on your speed and/or sociability.

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Re: Here from the BBC website like all the others - [info]oxfordgirl, 2005-07-11 02:03 pm UTC
Re: Here from the BBC website like all the others - [info]barrysarll, 2005-07-11 02:09 pm UTC
Re: Here from the BBC website like all the others - [info]oxfordgirl, 2005-07-11 02:16 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-07-11 04:15 pm UTC (link)
Ok, granted, the terrorist attacks on London were far less dramatic than those in the US and Spain, but nonetheless they happened and with them a lot of facts come to light that a lot of people have been trying to ignore:

1) There is nowhere in the world where you can feel safe. Terror can happen anywhere, no matter how cocky the politicians´ talk may be. All this crap about "we will bring these attackers to justice." makes me sick. Just shut it already. You´ll get them, but make innocent people suffer in the process (look at Guantanamo), and once you do catch those responsible, what happens when a few more of their brain-washed friends hatch the next plot?

2) Let´s face it, the war is not confined to Iraq or Afganistan or some piddly little third world country where Europeans and Americans alike seem to think lives are expendable. War is being waged on our home soil, and while it may not be as constant or as hard hitting as in the middle east, it´s here, and it´s not going away.

3) We are much, much, much less safe than we were 6 years ago. Bush with all of his proud bravado and cowboy ways has unleased all of this on us with the help of boot-licking Tony Blair and José María Aznar. Shame on all of them for being such greedy little twats that they couldn´t see beyond mid-east oil to realize the threat to which they were exposing their own people.

And to end this all, for as bold as you may want to be, don´t ever laugh off what happened in London. Even if only one person had died, it would have been too much. None of us should have to pay for the greed and inhumane decisions of the people who run this world, especially those of us who have fought them every step of the way.

Peace,

La Justa

http://lajustapulp.blogspot.com/

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[info]barrysarll
2005-07-11 04:22 pm UTC (link)
Sorry, but there were already fundamentalist scum at work six years ago, people like the Muslim Brotherhood attacking regimes they felt were not sufficiently Islamic. As Amir Taheri said in the article to which I linked today, the whole Middle Eastern oil business - that's only their tactical goal. If we did pull out of Iraq, that would only come across as a sign of weakness, and give them hope in pursuit of their further aims - the establishment of a caliphate.

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La Justa Speaks - (Anonymous), 2005-07-13 03:16 pm UTC
Re: La Justa Speaks - [info]barrysarll, 2005-07-13 03:39 pm UTC

[info]chemicalbeats
2005-07-11 08:05 pm UTC (link)
Hey mate, just thought you'd like to know you've been linked to by the beeeb...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/4672195.stm

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Osama bin Laden is a Jew!
(Anonymous)
2005-07-12 03:50 pm UTC (link)
Rumor has it Mr. Osama bin Laden is actually a Jew in disguise! And that Al-Qaeda is out to make Muslims chattel slavery ... ()

La Bona
http://divinetalk.blogspot.com/

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Re: Osama bin Laden is a Jew!
[info]barrysarll
2005-07-12 03:52 pm UTC (link)
Ah, I was wondering when the outright nutters would start arriving!

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[info]butterflycaught
2005-07-13 01:59 am UTC (link)
hey Sarll-o - you've become a Thing Of Internet Legend (even more so than you were before, of course)

i received an email full of quotes about the bombings and there was your weather-device one in the middle of them all. didn't know you'd been linked by the beeb until I followed a link posted on a message board...

the world is getting scarily small if i can't even escape you lot on the other side of the world! ;)

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[info]barrysarll
2005-07-13 08:43 am UTC (link)
This is interesting, as I copied [info]tyrell's quotes post into an email for the parents, in part because I didn't want them on anything which linked straight back to me. Wonder if, somewhere back in the mists of forwarding, that was the version you got? Though obv I'm sure plenty of other people must have done likewise.

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(no subject) - [info]butterflycaught, 2005-07-13 09:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]barrysarll, 2005-07-13 09:22 am UTC
war
(Anonymous)
2005-07-13 01:29 pm UTC (link)
quien siembra vientos, recoje tempestades.

Un Observador

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Re: war
[info]barrysarll
2005-07-13 01:33 pm UTC (link)
I'm guessing that you have enough English to read the post - in which case it puzzles me why you chose not to respond in the same language.
That looks to me a bit like 'Who sows the wind, reaps the whirlwind'; assuming it is, then it can take its place alongside all the other 'we were asking for it' garbage. We didn't start this, and to see our earlier retaliations retconned as aggressions - and by liberal Westerners rather than the acknowledged enemy, at that - sickens me.

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state industries hot water heaters
(Anonymous)
2008-08-31 11:42 am UTC (link)
Amazine site
Thanks, webmaster.

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